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Tuesday, 30 June 2009

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I finished Sermon 1 last night. It was so good to hear Dr. Forney speak again and it was obvious that he considered carefuly how to stimulate his listeners to love and good deeds.

I did not realize how much of that first love I had forgotten. Thank You.

David,

Thank you for the sermon links. I'm listening to the first one - it's simply marvelous! Please convey my gratitude to Dr. Forney.

I was just struck, stopped mid-sentence in typing when he read, "Draw me after you, let us run together." She's not taking charge, she's asking him to lead. Over and over again, time after time, the deeper one dives into Scripture, the heresy of religious feminism becomes astoundingly obvious - so clearly wrongheade, it's a wonder they can still make their arguments with a straight face. It is beyond irony that they continue to attempt to lay the "proof-text" argument at the door of Patriarchalists when they are the ones with a few proof words they must go after and argue for again and again and again in order to have any sort of case with which to deceived people.

I must have wanted to be deceived, just are they seem willing to accept the deception still.

Kamilla

Recommending the same Touchstone Mere Comments discussion David refers to above concerning Mark Driscoll's preaching--"The Gospel of Mark (Driscoll) & His Critics" by Justin D. Barnard--my friend, James Altena, sent his friend this wise comment:

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(Mr. Barnard's post) is magnificent. I have highlighted a portion that states succinctly the essential fault among many Evangelicals. They often accuse Roman Catholics of legalism and casuistry, but (Driscoll's) approach exemplified here is equally such -- merely in a different way. For legalism is not merely the creation of needless rules, or scrupulosity in observing them. It is rather a mindset that treats the Scriptures as a set of propositional statements and rules to be parsed literally, rather than as a framework of principles and precepts for the shaping of the mind and heart.

The legalism and casuistry here is one of a minimalistic literalism, which first reads Scripture as making merely specific and limited positivistic statements, and then twists those in order to say: “If it doesn’t say literally ‘You must do X,’ then I don’t have to do X, and Gospel liberty allows me to do whatever else I want to instead.”

This is of course licentiousness and not true Gospel liberty; it ignores the fact that even if the Scriptures do not specifically mandate or forbid some particular act X – and the Scriptures are not a comprehensive rule book of legal minutiae – it sets forth principles and precepts that lead to a direct conclusion as to whether doing or not doing X is good or bad. E.g., the Scriptures do not specifically forbid a man to marry and have sexual relations with a prepubescent girl. Do Driscoll, et al., seriously want to argue that such therefore lies within the parameters of Gospel liberty?

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Then Mr. Altena particularly commends this part of Mr. Barnard's post:

"Driscoll’s teaching reflects an impoverished understanding of the Gospel. For it presupposes that the moral boundaries expressed in Scripture have no internal order. They are, in that respect, effectively arbitrary. Thus, in Driscoll’s view, provided that we remain within the arbitrary boundaries expressed in God’s word, God’s saving grace in Christ gives us license to follow our desires. In practice, this means for Driscoll that a husband and wife may do things in their marriage bed that a gay couple may not since the former, having had their souls saved from the disembodied stains of sin, are doing such things within the essentially arbitrary boundaries that God has given.

"Such a view is deeply mistaken. The Gospel does not free us to give license to our desires; it orders our desires aright."

It seems to me Mr. Altena and Mr. Barnard are quite right in their critique of evangelicalism's legalism. But it's certainly not limited to sex. I well remember a former IVCF staff worker who was now an elder of a church I was serving announcing to the elders board that "Let a man examine himself" precluded any other men, particularly his elders, examining him, also.

David, I really liked this sermon. I also liked yours on 2 Tim 2:14

http://www.christtheword.com/sermon/2-ti-214/

Both sermons deal with what I've really been struggling with lately which is between the heart and mind of a Christian. It seems to me that many of my friends, and probably myself, use one to destroy the other rather than both to strengthen each other.

The one on 2 Tim 2:10 was excellent as well.

-Clint

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